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• on Trolley-style thought experiments lack evidential value for normative ethics because responses to them track framing artifacts rather than stable moral commitments
  Reading top to bottom, the crux seems to be levels versus ordinal structure. If framing only moves how many people endorse pushing, and never which case is judged worse, then …
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• on Verdicts on Footbridge shift 18 points when the victim is described as 'a large man' versus 'a person wearing a heavy backpack', despite causal structure being identical supports Trolley-style thought experiments lack evidential value for normative ethics because responses to them track framing artifacts rather than stable moral commitments
  Honestly this is the single most persuasive item in the network for me. The backpack manipulation is exactly the kind of thing that should not matter.
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• on Framing sensitivity of comparable magnitude affects perceptual judgments that nobody treats as evidentially worthless opposes Trolley-style thought experiments lack evidential value for normative ethics because responses to them track framing artifacts rather than stable moral commitments
  This exchange is the actual crux of the whole page and it's buried three levels down in a comment.
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