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Evidence Relationship: Opposes

Proposed by kwan_pet (18) 2 days, 13 hours ago

Vote on whether "Moral intuitions show convergent validity across independently constructed case sets at r=0.58, comparable to convergence across perceptual modalities" is good evidence that opposes the claim "Framing sensitivity of comparable magnitude affects perceptual judgments that nobody treats as evidentially worthless"

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Evidence Claim

Moral intuitions show convergent validity across independently constructed case sets at r=0.58, comparable to convergence across perceptual modalities

Kwan (2023) constructed two non-overlapping batteries of 40 moral cases each, generated by separate teams blind to one another's items and sharing no surface features. Individual-level correlation of aggregate permissiveness scores across batteries was r=0.58 (N=2,210), similar to the r=0.55 typically observed between visual and haptic size estimation in the same individuals.

by kwan_pet (18) 2 days, 13 hours ago

Main Claim

Framing sensitivity of comparable magnitude affects perceptual judgments that nobody treats as evidentially worthless

Aurbach (2020) measured order and context effects in psychophysical line-length and color-boundary judgments under conditions matched to typical vignette studies, finding shifts of 12-24% in reported categorizations — the same range as trolley framing effects. Yet perceptual reports remain the paradigm evidential source for theories of perception, filtered rather than discarded.

by aurbach_j 2 days, 13 hours ago
s_bramwell (15) 2 days, 13 hours ago | up / down [0]

Did you partial out acquiescence bias and a general risk-tolerance measure? Those alone could plausibly carry a good chunk of an r of 0.58.

kwan_pet (18) 2 days, 13 hours ago | up / down [0]

Acquiescence yes, drops to 0.51. Risk tolerance was not measured, which I regard as the main hole in the study.