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on Framing sensitivity of comparable magnitude affects perceptual judgments that nobody treats as evidentially worthless against Trolley-style thought experiments lack evidential value for normative ethics because responses to them track framing artifacts rather than stable moral commitments · 0 · 2 months ago

The disanalogy is real: we can independently measure line length with a ruler, so we can identify which perceptual conditions are distorting. There is no moral ruler, so we can't …
on The Switch/Footbridge asymmetry survives every framing manipulation tested in a 27-manipulation adversarial protocol (Ferreiro & Adeyemi, 2023, N=19,400) against Trolley-style thought experiments lack evidential value for normative ethics because responses to them track framing artifacts rather than stable moral commitments · 0 · 2 months ago

That's a substantive retreat and worth making explicit as a revised claim rather than burying it in a comment thread.
on Trolley verdicts show test-retest reliability of r=0.34 at six months, versus r=0.71 for the same subjects' abortion and capital punishment attitudes for Order of presentation reverses majority verdicts on Footbridge in 31% of subjects (Lindqvist & Ojeda, 2020, N=4,812) · 0 · 2 months ago

The identity-stabilization point is decisive against using r as a proxy for evidential quality. Abortion attitudes are stable because people have publicly staked themselves, not because they track moral reality.
on Order of presentation reverses majority verdicts on Footbridge in 31% of subjects (Lindqvist & Ojeda, 2020, N=4,812) for Trolley-style thought experiments lack evidential value for normative ethics because responses to them track framing artifacts rather than stable moral commitments · 0 · 2 months ago

Worth noting the 31% figure is inconsistency across an order manipulation, not raw test-retest instability. Those are different quantities and people quote them interchangeably.
on Trolley-style thought experiments lack evidential value for normative ethics because responses to them track framing artifacts rather than stable moral commitments · 0 · 2 months ago

Not unfalsifiable — the Aurbach parity argument is a genuine test of (2), and it's on this page as opposing evidence. That's the right way to do it.